2nd grow. LFG

Glad to hear your new grow is going well @SJ1

Had trouble over here, 3 of my seedlings died. Very sad, problem is I’m not 100% on why they died, Temps humidity and watering seemed on point. I may have added too much of a mycorrhizae+trichoderma supplement to the water I gave them. Could be a couple other things but it’s hard to narrow down. I ran out of jiffy pellets so I germinated 2 more seeds in Ocean Forest soil, a Northern Lights and a Purple Haze and they’re both seedlings now looking healthy. I wanted between 4-6 plants this grow so my plan is to veg those two seedlings then take cuttings and root them. It’s a learning experience no matter what now lol. I’m officially out of seeds so I’m hoping it all goes well

oh that sucks, sorry to hear that.

i always had issues doing the recommended ways of using paper towels and jiffy pods. Killed 5/6 seeds this way, although overwatering was the main issue I still feel the stress of moving the seeds when they are “newborn” is not worth the effort at all. for example although all the seeds formed a taproot, after planting only about half actually went on to break ground. so they obviously did not like being handled. the ones that did damped off shortly after. interesting that the ones you planted direct are doing well

would be good to know if anyone has done a side by side grow of differing germination techniques, would be interesting to see the results.

i just don’t see the point in adding a layer of stress and potential damage to them right when they are at their most delicate. i would much rather be woken up to breakfast in bed than a bucket of ice water lol. terrible analogy but you get the point.

without seeing them its hard to say what happened… maybe make a post and you can get some advice… I also have a spare bubblegum xxl auto seed if you want me to send it to you just let me know. If you plan on vegging the others for more than 9-10 weeks could be fun to run alongside.

Yeah I agree with you, I haven’t tried the paper towel method for that reason. If there’s a chance I can f*ck something up, I will maybe several times. Sounds expensive so I’ll stick to methods I know I’m less likely to mess up lol. To compare germination techniques side by side you’d need a really big sample size of seeds I think to get definitive proof, maybe someone’s done it already. Would be interesting. That’s cool of you to offer but I haven’t got the money for postage at the moment

oh i wasn’t gonna ask for postage haha, was just an offer. but spain to the US woudl probably take forever so maybe you can hit up your local growshop for some freebies. mine usually gives me a couple here and there, they are literally marked on the pack as freebies that they get from certain breeders. just a thought.

did a quick search on germination studies, there are lots done by agricultural firms. they get crazy tbh with chemicals and temps and processes but the main takeaway I saw was that “Since both water and air are essential components for germination, therefore both proved to improve the efficacy of germination.”

I also found this interesting - “improvement in efficiency of germination simultaneously improved the phenolic content. Therefore, optimization of germination condition of legumes improves its antioxidant capacity.” Better germination = healthier plants?

Not found a similar study for MJ yet though look at this How to Professionally Germinate Cannabis Seeds: Award-Winning Seed Breeder’s Step by Step Instructions — Ed Rosenthal - they even say in the article that “Your seedlings will need some time to recover from the transplant”.

I would defo fuck that up haha. But interesting they sterilize and soak in a nutrient solution. Maybe you picked up a bug of some sort if everything else was on point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Day 10 from breaking ground, approaching week 1 of veg.

Had an issue with algae this week - even though I am hyperaware of overwatering I still overdid it lmao. You really do need to keep the soil almost bone dry, especially if you run high RH, which I had at 75%. So I dialled it back to 70% and laid off the watering to 50ml every 3-4 days instead of 2 and it’s cleared up.

Was also hitting 85-86F in the tent so dropped the power on the lamp and moved it closer which took off about 5 degrees whilst still maintaining the light intensity.

Still watering with plain water and a touch of calmag, ph 6.3. Thinking of starting nutes as of next week, how long do y’all wait on giving (organic) nutes to autos?

Oh yeah and what method is that?

Basically just the direct method mate with a shorter soak, til they sink.

Imma def try on my next germination thanks bro!

I add some empson salt to my water to germinate lol too

And a little hydrogen peroxide

yeah no worries, yeah let me know how you get on with it. interested to hear more about the h2o2 and epsom salts thing, what does this bring to the party?

presumably the h2o2 is to sterilise the water? what’s the epsom for?

I heard magnesium and seeds love it better info on google.

This is how my grow is going and my set up looks.

Short update. I harvested this grow and all are now curing. Got about 2oz per plant give or take which is decent but most of the bud was a little airy and lacking density, and overall I am just not that impressed with the quality, both flavor and strength.

Interestingly, my grow was way more dialled in this time, with very little stress. Environment was pretty much constant at 80F, and RH kept within vpd ideal zones. So a better grow than my first run but worse quality bud. That’s gotta point to the genetics…

It’s like autos are like “diluted” versions of photos. Great for speed, not so much if you want primo buds. Was a great experiment, glad I tried it but I want top shelf smoke not grade B.

So back to photos for me. 3rd grow coming up lol.

My auto is on day7 of drying and I tried a sample. Really nice flavor and smell, couldnt really smell her in the tent but after grinding a bud it’s super skunky with lemon that lingers after a pull from my bowl. I dont like how I cant control the growth for autos and really develop that structure with training, I like photos more too

Nice. Were the buds dense?

I’d say half the buds are dense for my drying auto. My photos last grow definitely had denser buds. Couple more days and I can get a final weight but I dont think its going to be a lot since the buds arent that dense. First time growing this strain though and its an auto haha

“Diluted” good term . . . and so called fast versions are just the first step of the dilution process. I tried them both . . . still got a few FV seeds that will never be germinated in my garden. It’s like mixing Good bud and CBD flower and telling me it’s better that way . . . I’ve tried BS too . . . maybe for headache remedy.

Funny thing is, contrary to popular belief autos aren’t faster than photoperiods . . . choose the correct growing method/strain and I can get a better yield, higher quality and reach harvest faster, more reliably with photoperiod clones than autos. And I don’t have to buy a seed for every plant . . . no brainer. Now if I can just my multi-strain mother plant project going . . .

@Graywave yeah was similar for me, top nugs were nice and dense, the rest, meh. I also noted the smell in the tent was far more muted on the auto run

@frogyrogy nicely put. and best of luck with your frankenstein mother keep us posted haha