[ETA: the leaves more brown and less yellow in real life than on the phone]

Growlog link: [ Reboot #1 growlog - Grow with Jane ] But it’s pretty much empty of actions. At least you’ll get all basic info on setup.

Old (10yo) seeds from a feminizes Super Skunk plant that had made some. No idea of sex yet.
Growing indoor.

All was going pretty well until I left last week and left my husband in charge of watering. When I got back yesterday evening, one plant (that was the best of the two) had a part that was all wilted like super thirsty, and had some curled/folded leaves. They hadn’t been watered the night before and I found the topsoil a bit too dry to my taste so prepared their water and gave it to them. This morning this one is looking rough and the other one is thriving

I left instructions on how to regulate pH and how to dose the nutrients (1ml in a liter of water, so half dose). I use Biobizz Bio-Grow. Last night I diluted it a bit more still, and I added 1/4th dose of Root-Juice. This morning it looked like the pics you’ll find here (same as on my log). I found it still limp and the soil dry so I gave it some more clear water to hope and flush it a bit. I’m wary about overwatering, though.

Help?

I don’t remember having that much trouble 10y ago , but then I had a bigger tent and no heater as the big lamps provided all the necessary warm whereas now I have LED ones and the tent is in a cold room. I don’t know if that plays a part.

Ask all the questions you need, I’ll provide additional info and pics as necessary.

Thanks a lot!!

Hello and welcome here @hoochie34.
There could be several reasons for this.

1. Too dry
2. Too warm
3. Too much light
   I would rule out point 3 based on your description of what happened.
   Try lifting the pot and compare the weight of the two. If one is much lighter, it lacks water. Provided the pots are the same size.

Hi, thanks a lot for your speedy answer

- Both pots feel the same weight-wise (they’re both 11L fabric pots).

• I did change the lamp yesterday evening for a 100w instead of 60w but I pulled it up higher above so it wouldn’t burn the plants. Also, the problematic plant was already wilted when I did that, so I too am not so sure it comes from that.
• I am not particularly worried about heat since it’s constantly been around 24-26C during day and 20-21C during “night” and it didn’t seem to be a problem until now… but

→ Should I keep on watering without nutrients for a few days to see what happens?
→ Should I water more or on the contrary withhold watering for a couple of days to possibly let roots dry?
→ Anything else?

Ah, and here I thought I was doing so well… ^^
Shouldn’t have left -_-

Thanks again!

So, I have the same tent size and a 240-watt light. It’s currently running at 120 watts, but I’ve also had it at 180 watts without issues. That can’t be it.
I think it’s the water. It will take time for her to recover, depending on how much damage has occurred. Maybe give her some more water tomorrow without fertilizer to get the soil properly moist again without damaging the roots with the fertilizer. And then see how

There is an app called Photone, if you can download it go for it. It isn’t 100% accurate but will get your ppfd within range. Seedling 100-300 ppfd, veg 300-700 ppfd, and flower 600-1100 ppfd. If you are using CO2 you can add 200-400 ppfd.

Hello!
So I waited a bit more before watering, I was worried about overdoing it. I did give clear water this morning before their “night”. They don’t look worse but not much better either.

I attached a few pictures of the damaged one, and also the other one which is still better but seems a bit droopy too (but not all soft, it’s still plump) and with curly leaf ends, so I’m definitely thinking overwatering and will wait before next giving her/them again?

What do you think?

Have I set myself back much in term of timing and global growth?

I was waiting for the 6th node to grow so I could start manifolding/mainlining them at the third one… should I do that now, have them grow a bit then start flowering early so I can “quickly” launch another batch which I’ll hopefully not damage this time? I don’t want to waste weeks if this lot is never going to be a good harvest anyway… I’m thinking the top nodes are damaged anyway, and maybe it would benefit from clearing up the lower ones too, to favor the third node’s growth?

Or should I just bite the bullet and wait some more before doing anything structural and then go the full “normal” (veg and flo) course?

I’m just wary of having to wait 3 months before harvesting a small batch when I could be harvesting still a small batch but much sooner and thus having another, better, one on the way earlier…

Thanks a lot for your input

Hi!

Thanks for your tip. Will this make me change the lamp’s distance to the plant? Because there’s not much else I can do (I can switch it between 100 and 150W, and between grow/flow color temp)…

Are you using hard tap water? I’ve seen a couple of cases resembling your issue that was caused by hard water. Excess calcium can result in lockouts for potassium, iron, magnesium, etc.

I would wait a few more days to see how they develop. She should recover first before you cause her new stress through mainlining. Due to the fabric pots, the soil should be able to dry quite well; if the roots have been damaged, it will take some time, but they should recover. You might need one to two weeks longer than you had planned, give them some time to recover and look at the fresh growth; you’ll see how they develop from the fresh shoots.

So I installed it and it says 600 so I’m good on that point right?

Last time I checked I was at 6, if memory serves… it’s not too bad, right?

Ok. What I’m seeing now is that the new growths are slow, dry and/or withered, and shrunken on themselves, which isn’t reassuring to me. Should I try and put the pots on duckboard-like things to help with drying. It seems they’re not drinking much and it’s not drying at the core/bottom, only the top and sides.

I know 1-2 weeks delay isn’t horrible but it feels soooooo long right now as they’re already 5 weeks old and much more late than I expected them to be at that age

Does your substrate have good drainage? Perlite?
Do you use Trichoderma or other beneficial fungi or microorganisms in your grow?

A 6 shouldn’t be too bad . . . I don’t go by the hardness scale though, just a guesstimate. Do you have issues with build up on faucets, coffee maker and the like? If no it is likely a different problem.

I’ve got 30% perlite in my soil. No trichoderms. Didn’t need any 10y ago when I last grew stuff

No, not much deposits anywhere.

Hello and welcome @hoochie34 ,

Unfortunately, not everyone has a green , (too bad you can’t change the color. )

But oh dear… They don’t look good at all in your first photos.

Now @herr_gruen and you have already doctored them a bit…
What is the patient’s condition now?

Do you happen to have anything from yesterday or perhaps even today to compare and check? Has anything worked yet?

I’ll follow the topic.

Grow on

A few recent pictures would be good. Of old and new shoots, leaves, and also of the stem. Perhaps you can push some soil aside at the stem to be able to see the upper roots and also take pictures of them.

What medium are you using, Soil, coco, or peat? All like different moisture levels, Coco likes to stay moist and soil likes it a little drier. Imo you are drying out for too long. You don’t want the medium to dry out fully. All can become hydrophobic when too dry and water will drain around it instead of being absorbed. Your root ball should always have some moisture around it or the roots can dry out and die. If the roots dry out you’ll really have some issues.

Errr, ok… Very useful

(And I will have you know that I actually used to be very good with plants, all the more reason to be surprised by this unexpected turn of events)